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What single element of the lecture OR the assignment made you think more? Or, was there something you had to struggle with, where merely skimming the surface was not enough? What forced you to think more in depth?
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The questions you asked us about "bad karma" made me really think in and outside the box. Thinking outside the box is usually a good thing whereas it can really help you answer a question in the most reasoning way. For ex, it made me think like a teacher as if I was the one receiving these excuses and how would I react to them in my mind to help gain a better thought.
ReplyDeleteWhat really mad me think was the term tribe. I felt like asking us to identify with a tribe contradicted with what the article was trying to say. From what I got out the article people wanted to acknowledge their differences but not be identified by them. I am still struggling with identifying myself with a tribe as I feel that tribe is a strong word. I identify with groups of like-minded people but I am not set by their boundaries and when I think of tribe I think of set boundaries within a group.
ReplyDeleteThe anti Italian cartoons made me really think because just looking at them was not enough to really understand what was happening. I struggled to understand some of the things showed in the pictures like the 'black hand' or what 'Wop' meant.The explanation after the cartoon really helped to understand in depth what the cartoon was trying to show and to understand the rest of the cartoons that were similar to the previous one.
ReplyDeleteWhat made me think the most was the anti-Italian cartoons, especially because I come from an Italian background. I imagine that my ancestors went through the persecution that was depicted in the cartoons. I felt this was similar to how the Irish and so on where treated.
ReplyDeleteThe cartoons were very strong. Each group of migrants have dealt with similar problems. I hope we continue to grow from horrors like this and progress as a society. I believe that things like this still happen to some severity today via social media. Do you agree ?
DeleteThe same way as you thought about your ancestors and how they were being treated I thought the same for mine. Although mine are Jamaican I still wonder about their treatment as well I'm sure it was similar.
DeleteThey was a few things that made me think in depth. The first one was the word "tribe" because I was associate it with like stone age and like indians. Never thought of it like that, I always just thought we are of different social groups or cliques but never tribe. Another thing that got me thinking was the New York Times article, I did not know that the population of mixed people was that high and made me think do other people know that because we are still facing a lot of racism in the U.S of the year 2016. The last thing that had me thinking was what Father said, he said he will teach everything a college graduate knows in 5 minutes. At first I wasn't thinking anything really of it but as he went on, I realize he kind of has a point which is mind blowing.
ReplyDeleteI was surprised with the NY times article too. Not only was I surprised with the number of mixed population but also with the amount of groups relating to different nationalities or cultures that students have created in colleges and Universities. I also had the same reaction to the vide of Father Guido Sarducci. I too realized that it might be funny the way he put the concept of going to college but what he was saying was true and he did have a point.
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ReplyDeleteThe cartoons really made me think about the way immigrants and ethnic groups have been treated in this country. The cartoon depicting the Italian immigrant shining shoes while appearing as an animal (an ape/monkey to be exact) is something that is all too familiar. Plenty of times historically, African Americans have been depicted as less than and as animals, particularly monkeys as well. The similarities in the disgusting depiction of nonwhite ethnic groups just because they are different is telling of the intolerance that has spanned throughout history.
ReplyDeleteThe cartoons were individuals who falsely identified Italian immigrants. These discriminatory acts against immigrants especially portraying them as animals was very wrong. It did portray the struggle that immigrants had to go through no matter what race you are.
DeleteThe article in the NY Times made me think the most, personally. To see what brings people together is very interesting. In regards to old political cartoons, I just think, yes, everybody hated everybody and will continue to hate everybody forever. To see an argument over Mixed-Race people's sense of belonging presented in an observational way is interesting to me. This is not to say that outside sources will always be the most interesting, just in this case, I thought the most about the topic of that article.
ReplyDeleteFrom the first lecture, I felt the "tribe" introduction made me think the most because it forced me to look into myself, and to put myself in a tribe, which I found difficult to do. Not because I felt I didn't know where I would belong, but because I felt the word "tribe" always has negative connotations. However, at the end of that first part, especially in the assignment where I had to write more about it, I felt a sense of pride of being a part of a tribe, and maybe even a sense of relief.
ReplyDeleteThe word "tribe" does seem to generate negative connotations, like it's the antithesis of civilization. I understand pride as an emotion one would associate with finding oneself part of a tribe, but I'm curious about what you mean by "relief," and how come you feel it after putting yourself in a tribe (or realizing that you've always been in one).
DeleteSo far all of these lectures made me think with an open mind. The part of the lecture that made me think the most was probably the understanding of the word tribe. It gave me a clear definition of what a tribe is and examples of how people fit in and become part of a tribe. This lecture made me question some of my personal skills and what tribe I belong in. Some people know they are part of a tribe others just think they have a group of friends and a family. I am still a little confused on what tribe I belong to. I tried to figure it out but I am stuck and I am Italian.
ReplyDeleteI had the same thought about our first lecture, that it was the considering of what a tribe is that stuck out to me. If you say you are Italian, why don't you also say that that in fact is a tribe you belong to? Why do you feel stuck?
DeleteYes, I was first confused when we were asked what tribe we belonged to. You become so accustomed to the traditions and lifestyle of your "tribe" that you end up forgetting you even belong to one.
DeleteThe question regarding the tribe I belong to made me think about the great pride West Indian people have towards their heritage. And it wasn't until I really sat down with this assignment and analyzed that even though I don't indulge in all the traditions that come along with it, when i watch the news and see what's going on back home I just get a great sense of happiness. It's like I'm involved from a distance because I just know it feels to be a child running around Jamaica.
ReplyDeleteGood afternoon classmates,
ReplyDeleteThough I had been exposed to the concept many years ago, the article and discussions on "Tribe" really stuck in my head.
Humanity's tribe culture is integral to ourselves. I would argue it is equally as integral as our emotions, and basic needs. We desire to in some way belong and be recognized as a part of something bigger than ourselves. But is sectioning ourselves off into groups of similarity for the sake of comfortability right? My instinctive response, is no. As a means to garner a greater understanding our yourself I see the value in reflecting on others alike, past and present. However we have seen, heard, and read of exclusivity's dangers. The Holocaust, the Rwandan genocide, Bosnia, or Darfur are horrific manifestations of an extreme case of tribe mentality and reminders to the danger of polarization. Or would Beppo have suffered so greatly in america if rather than grouped as an Italian or an immigrant initially, he was first thought of as a person? However on the other side would LGBT marriage equality have ever passed had they not stood together, as a tribe, and made their voices clear? There are two sides to this and I'm conflicted, and also curious, what you all think.
Where do you draw the line? Meaning when does it become inappropriate. Do you see this being a discussion 50 - 100 years from now? Or would you rather see the question of which group you belong to eliminated from human worry?
Best,
Austin Radford
I think you're bordering more on the lines of equality which is a very real issue, but I feel as though this subject raises the question of social belonging. People wanting to fit into a specific group, as opposed to the group being assigned to you (gender association, race, etc.). But you do raise a good point as I fear ranks will be apart of human society forever.
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ReplyDeleteThe assignment that made me think more was the anti Italian cartoons. Listening to your lecture video helped me to analyze the cartoons in depth. For example, I probably wouldn't of noticed the Italian man's face depicted as an ape if I were to glance at it quickly by myself. However, looking closely I noticed his facial characteristics and the fact that the American was looking down at him while he was shining his shoe indicating superiority.
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